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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses a hierarchical religion? And does it matter?

  by cedars in

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  2. beliefs

  this is the title of my latest article, which is available on the link below.... http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-hierarchical-religion-and-does-it-matter.

  inspired by the illustration in the april 15th watchtower (above), i thought it would be worthwhile to further explore this facet of the society for two reasons.... because the society has spent decades criticizing the catholic church for being hierarchical, andbecause the society has recently become more open about its hierarchical nature than ever before.below is a diagram i have prepared which shows the organizational similarities that watch tower society now shares with the catholic church.... .

  until recently, the governing body could place the "faithful slave" above it at the top of the pyramid, but as of october 5th this fuzzy doctrine was scrapped - thus removing the final distinguishing factor between the governing body and popedom.. as always, i would be interested in your thoughts.... .

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  Great minds think alike this morning. I started a thread about this a little while ago.

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  please help

  by joyfulfader in

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  2. experiences

  i am posting to ask this group of wonderful people to help my friend who is with me now.

  we are discussing her serious doubts and the barriers she is facing as the wife of an elder with small children.

  she is desperately looking for help to pull away without causing dissention in her otherwise very good marriage.

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  Make sure she has the Custody packet.

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  Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

  i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

  did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

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  They sure would!

  "Nov 15, 1952 Watchtower pp.703-704 Questions from Readers

  Questions from Readers

  • In the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshiped, how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?—P.C., Ontario, Canada.

  We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. "Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to draw thee away from Jehovah thy God, . . . And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee."—Deut. 13:6-11, AS.

  Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God's law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof."

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  JW's disdain for the Papacy, and their new light

  by zed is dead in

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  2. friends

  i love how the witnesses have contempt for all other religions, especially the catholic church.

  their big gripe is about the pope being the spoksman of god.

  they pride themselves in not having a clergy.

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  I love how the Witnesses have contempt for all other religions, especially the Catholic church. Their big gripe is about the Pope being the spoksman of God. They pride themselves in not having a clergy. With the new understanding of the 8 GB members now being the FDS, isn't this their college of cardinals? Same stuff, different day!

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  Do the GB 2.0 Travel First Class? What Do You Know About That?

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know bethelites have signed a vow of poverty and recieve about $100 monthly stipends.

  however, when it comes to air travel, does the governing body of jehovah's witnesses aka watchtower society in new york state (gb 2.0) travel first class?

  what do you know about that?.

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  Connie,

  You prize something signed by Stevie Lett? He is such a dweeb; you must be turned on by people with a 6th grade education!

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  Some advice please?

  by Wonka in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend of mine i'm in lust with, has been trying to convert / recruit me.

  she's been very pleasant with me and very patient with me.

  she hasn't been very pushy which i appreciate.. she's even said that if at anytime i'm getting smothered or feel this religion isn't my thing, to say so and she will stop asking about it.

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  I would run if I were you. Even if you did pull her out, guilt could suck her right back in.

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  Hey! Hey Everybody!

  by sooner7nc in

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  2. friends

  i just talked to breck (lowkey lyesmith) and he says "hello" to all and especially to the "hears voices" group.

  whatever that means.. .

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  Zed is dead, baby. Zed is dead. Brrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuum.
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  Hey! Hey Everybody!

  by sooner7nc in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just talked to breck (lowkey lyesmith) and he says "hello" to all and especially to the "hears voices" group.

  whatever that means.. .

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  Peace to you, my dear sooner! My personal Jesus told me already that he said "Hi" in our own personal language. I am blessed, you know.

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  Stop Putting Apostate Stickers On My Literature! They "Cost Lots of Money!"

  by AuntConnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "true story" the circuit overseer came to our kingdom hall and read us the riot act (local needs style) "magazines of this quality are not free, they cost money and we are not generating enough donations to defray the cost of the magazines(or running the top of the line printing presses) i get my ass out of bed to place literature in the laundray cleaning, coin opperated shops and some asshole puts his apostate stickers on our magazines.

  do you know how hard it is to get up at 6:00 am and how expensive those magazines are costing the organization to print?

  please stop defiling our literature, i dont post hateful stickers on your website so please leave my magazines alone.

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  The label costs more to print than those thin little rags.

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  My husband deleted me as a friend on FaceBook

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after this whole thing with him talking to this other girl on fb, now he deleted me as a friend.

  i have his username and password.

  it's like, he doesn't want this marriage to work at all.. i don't even have it in me to argue with him.

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  If he deleted you, he would be a dolt not to change his password too.

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